i don't know if it's -- i think it used to be more of an issue when somebody would show the that kind of emotion. >> and it depends on the situation. when president obama was talking about the tragedy in connecticut, this is a man who's a father, and, you know, and the leader of our country. you know, to see that emotion, i don't think there's anything wrong with that. >> i don't think it's a problem when it comes from a place of sinceri sincerity. when it's political and calculated, that's when it brings us to some problems. jason, somebody does something wrong, they do the mandatory sit-down interview, they show tears, they think by becoming a little bit more vulnerable, opening themselves up, maybe the public will forgive them. >> i thought back to 2007, right after kanye west lost his mother, he was in paris, he decided to go on with the concert, go on stage, and he could not get through the song at all. literally, he left the stage for 10 to 15 minutes. so it was a very emotional moment and understandably so for him. and chris brown at the b.e.t. rewards, he lost it, but chris ha